Saturday, December 8, 2007

Nikon vs Canon - Conclusions

To choose, to choose. Barbie or Penelope? Errr.....Nikon, or Canon?

(Continued after the Jump)

Honestly, I am glad I don't have to choose. I've got a blonde and a brunette...err...a Canon and Nikon.

For large commercial jobs, where I am thinking I want a higher native resolution, it'll be the Canon I reach for. For low light situations, which are all too common, it will, without a doubt, be Nikon. In fact, with the noise issue out of the way, and most client deliverables needing to be down-rezzed anyway, I can see that the Nikon not only would be a better solution to speeding up my post-production process, but moreover, storing the RAW/DNG files will save me significant hard-drive space in my archives over the larger Canon files.

Will the Mark III have issues it's earlier Mark III siblings had? I hope not. Will Nikon have an as-yet-unknown issue? Who knows. We're all their guinea pigs, shelling out thousands to fuel their R&D, with the consumers being the beneficiaries.

Advantage? Photo Finish - Nikon by a nose, for what I do. How about you?

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Anonymous said...

It's close, but I'm still going to take... my D50. WOOOO

(I have no money)

But when I get money, I'll be going the way of the D3 (or, more likely, the D3x by then).

Anonymous said...

Just got my D3 and used it for the first time last night at the Suns V Wizards game. At ISO 4000 there was no discernable noise. The images were accurately rendered as far as color and hue. Really impressive out of the box. Oh, and in DX mode, it shoots at 11fps, and in shooting sports, I do care about that.

Kalmár Nagy András said...

I don't need the resolution, our newspaper looks like it's printed on toilet paper with wax crayons, so I'll probably be using DX crop mode on the D3 all the time. It lets you make small RAWs (for those lovely mixed fluorescents) and doesn't take up space like my D200 RAWs do.
I also like Nikon's flash system, pity they couldn't include some sort of commander system in the D3 (yeah, I know, I should get the SU-800 commander, but still)
I'm a bit worried about the AF in low light, I mean it's no use having ISO25,600, when you can't focus. My eyes are not that great, so MF is a last resort for me.

Anonymous said...

Nice little review. I think I'll be sticking to Canon because of previous hardware, but the Nikon does look like it has an edge in the dark.

Please go through your review and fix the formatting around the images though, it's a pain to read down the side of the pictures!


Anonymous said...

Well i don't think it's a fair test because you're compare with cameras that are tune to different purpose!

Nikon D3 is specially design to shoot at low light, hence the 14 bits processor is tune from ISO 200.
Whereas the Canon like the Hasselblad H3D is a studio camera hence their 14 bits processor are tune from ISO 50!

If you compare the both camera at ISO 200, I can show you the noise level of the Canon will be better!

Futhermore, you use a software to blow up the Nikon file, I am sure if you do the same with the Canon file it will make even bigger prints.
It like trying to compare with the 22MP Hasselblad H3D file with a blow up Nikon D3 file.
It is meaningless! If it is that good no one will invest for a medium format digital back.

For camera test, you need to compare with the entire ISO range! Redo your test with ISO200.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for an interesting comparison.

Would be interested to see what the 1D Mk III files look like after using some 3rd party (not Adobe) noise reduction software and then compare this to the up-rezzed D3...

leping said...
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leping said...

Very nice review. To really reach the D3's potential, however, you need to use the Capture NX, which produces much less noise and does the important automatic CA reduction. Then you save the processing to the NEFs, and open them in RAW Developer, sharpening Differential of Gaussian something like 0.48/500, and output blowing up all the way to 200% (8512x5664). Nothing additional in Photoshop, and you will be smashed by the quality, like I am with the fine 16x24 print in my hands right now.

The "same converter" argument you made is not really true. ACR/LightRoom uses different settings and parameters even at defaults, on diffrent types of files. Noise form DPP and ACR are quite similar, but not between NX and ACR. ACR always generate the kind of ("Rou", a term used in China) plasticky looking, which makes the D3 images similar to the Canon's. The looking works well in studio but not for landscapes.

The exceptional capability of upsampling of the D3 RAW image's are mostly because of their original cleanness. The pixels are not really sharp to begin with, and nor are the micro contrasts, just like in my Imacon 949 film scans without sharpening applied. Nevertheless, the pixels are so creamy and pure they do not break down easily and early, at the common points around 150% upsampling ratio.

We should educate the readers to find the best workflow to upsample their printing files well beyond 100%, for the ultimate fine detail potentials, not just keep the masters at 100% and printing them out at 120dpi and by doing so give up the last hope of any details beyond such resolution.

leping said...

"astonishing quality when scaled up"

Read Lloyd Chambers' D3 blog here. He was initially critical to the D3's per pixel sharpeness.

Jim Goldstein said...

Great write up. One thing that is missing in your review that would be important to know is how battery life holds up for each. My 1D Mark II has phenomenal battery life which is great when shooting aggressively at the cameras full capture rate or when out in the back country doing nature work. Does the D3 have the endurance to stay in the fight with Canon?

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the fine review - it was a good read. I would also like to thank Nikon for showing the world that ISO 24k is possible and can be done well! I always liked Nikon, but I have Canon DSLR's. Why thank Nikon? Well because they will push Canon to do the same with super high ISO! Then I can get one of those :-) Steve H.

Anonymous said...

I would be very interested to see the Nikon pit against the Canon 5D. The reason for this is I think the comparison would be fairer. Full size sensor, 12.+MP and a difference in price equal two the other two cameras.
Is the D3 twice as good as the Canon 5D, Even in low light? I doubt it!

Michael Stewart said...

John, Nice review, I like the way look at the features that seperate the two cameras. I shot the D2X and 5D systems side by side for six months. I ended up selling my Nikons and now have both Mark IIIs and a 5D. I'm planning to re-equip myself with Nikon gear in the spring, but not for any of the reasons you mention. Lens selection and multiple flash use is the driving factor for me.
Noise comparisons are difficult because of the file sizes. The only way to fairly compare them is to compare them for specific uses and hard proof those uses:
Huge Poster at 100,400,3200
Double truck at 100,400,3200
1/4 page at 100,400,3200
None of this concerns me much as I think they will come out very close.
Nikon is a clear winner in the flash category. Multiple flashes can be individually controlled more accurately and they use 5 batteries instead of 4. Canon does have the Flash Exposure Lock feature which I like.
I feel that I need both camera systems because of the lens selection. I won't make any general comments about lenses because like Barbie dolls each one is very different. Nikon has 5 new lenses and there is a rumor that 10 more will be out with the D3x in the spring. DX lenses are a real disappointment on the D3, you only get a 5.1MP file. Don't throw away your DX sized 10.5 fisheye yet, the rumored D3X will get you a bigger file.
Tethering is another issue, I never had luck tethering Nikons because of software issues. Canon seems to have the edge here.
I'm a grass is always greener on the other side guy. Love the one your with!

Anonymous said...

I would really like to see how typical pro zoom lenses perform with these sensors. More specifically, at 2.8 are the photos sharp edge to edge AND are the corners dark?

Anonymous said...

The bigger issue in regards to raw converters is... Instruction Sets!

Adobes ARC, Lightroom, Aperture, Bibble, Capture One (any 3rd party raw converter) CANNOT read the instruction set on the NEF file. They ignore it and tag it with an .xmp file (an .xmp file is an Instruction set for and Encrypted Instruction set!! not as good by any means)

the only way to truly compare the results is to covert with Both canon and nikons software.

the cool and AMAZING thing about nikons Capture NX is that IT CAN REWRITE THE instruction set as many times as you like!!! thats raw conversion... thats why Leaf/Phase digital backs are soooo amazing (you can rewrite the instruction set)

what does all this mean....well If we pay 5000 bucks for a D3...we're hoping that the camera might be able to take a sweet photo right out of the camera right? well yes it can change all its wonderful settings.....BUT the second you open that NEF file with, lets say, Adobe Camera RAW....IT IGNORES EVERYTHING .. ALL of the encrypted instruction set.... and re-reads the raw data and wants you to process it back to what the camera could have already done perfect... its a real bummer

same for medium format digital backs. I would be a fool not to use Leafs software to convert there mosaics... if i used ARC it would ignore all the important stuff!!

no one seems to realize how important that really is

ppl might be feeling pissed now, WHY wont Nikon or LEaf or whomever allow Adobe or Apple access to their encrypted instruction sets...well because each company wouldnt have their little edge in the raw world..

for instance Nikons NEF allows you to well Change any and all settings you applied in camera. Like if you were in the wrong color mode or over-sharpened can undo and change things..whenever

whats even cooler is the fact that you can ADD ON to the nef files instruction set!!! you can do ANY adjustment Capture NX has to offer as a "New Step" AND do it SelectivelY!!!!!!! Selective Curves, LCH, Levels, SELECTIVE DISTORTION CONTROL, noise reduction, sharping, BW, Cropping, selective anything....and then what? CLICK SAVE!!! thats whats amazing.. it's added on to the instruction set and you can change it at ANY time....

if you still need photoshop... click "open with" in NX and it opens it in PS as a 16 Bit Tiff....

or you can continue using ACR and getting so so results...


Unknown said...

I own the 1D MIII and for the first time I can remember I am envious of the Nikon crowd.

In fact, for the first time I am also regretting that I bought the MIII.

I hope Canon sees this because if Nikon can pull off one or two more advances like this I will be selling out and smiling all the way.

Fun article. Thank you

Anonymous said...

Very nice and lighthearted review, although I would like to see real world images I get the whole controlled thing. Not a shooter alive who has shot with both film and digital can dispute that the noise or lack of is awesome. We trust that these are production models and not tweaked. From the D1x to this D3 is night &
day. I shoot weddings now with a d200 and am very happy with the results (set aside the crappy battery grip (shame on Nikon). I would love to have the D3 based on the low noise but the price point is a bit high. I realize the chips are different but would love to see some high ISOs from the D300 (I would sleep better at that price point). Anyhow if you get the chance please post some "real world" images at the higher ISOs of the Nikon. I am sure it will be a great help to many making a decision what to purchase.

Anonymous said...

This is really quite enjoyable. I read reviews and comments on different sites and it is immediately clear which site is 'inhabited' by which camp. I'll bet you can guess which camp this site attracts!

Anonymous said...

The Nikon files look way over processed. I would rather have a little noise I can deal with later, than the soft "smooth" file from the Nikon. Not a good comparison.
As we know, the signal to noise ratio does change with pixel size. But there is much more than just SN that makes a great file to work with.

Give me the Canon with the extra sharpness, file size etc. I can use in camera settings (you said you didn't turn on High ISO noise reduction on the Canon) or Noise Ninja etc.

Anonymous said...

Well done for getting in so quickly.
The D3 does seem to have incredible noise performance at high ISO, but with no plausible explanation yet (basic physics imposes some pretty tough constraints on what can be achieved).

I would have preferred to see crops that included real fabric, skin or hair. The trouble with plastic skin is that it has no discernible texture so, IMHO, is a poor test of detail, sharpness, resolution.

Orange County Wedding Photographer said...

First of all, thank you so much for doing this and sharing. I'm a Canon shooter and I'm not even thinking of switching to Nikon. I'm just glad that Nikon did something truly amazing that hopefully will get Canon scrambling to come up with something better! Hurray for Nikon, but I'm looking forward to Canon's response.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the review! Is it just me, or is Penelope not way hotter than Barbie?

Steve Bocaranda said...

very good job, nice pictures one dau I want to be like you> Hey! this picture did you take with a Nikon?

Anonymous said...

Close contest but don't forget the Canon is $3,000 more. Unless you really need those extra pixels clogging up your hard drive, the difference is not worth it.

Anonymous said...

I fail to understand why some people feel so disappointed when a Nikon gear is complimented over a Canon gear and vice versa. Are you guys employees of Canon or Nikon or do they support your family. We are all out there paysing our hard earned money to buy these cameras, so who ever is good is probably worth our money, why get so emotional and behave as if Canon or Nikon is our family company or something like that. Canon is competing with Nikon in the real world, but it looks as if we ar competing here while they are just watching the fun and laughing at us. Professionals ought to behave better.Both brands are good. One new model and Canon excells and another new model and Nikon excells. Thats the way it is and will always be. End the fights and the arguments. Let Canon and Nikon do that, let us just take good photographs.


Anonymous said...

Canon lenses are unbeatable in every aspect. Nikon? Oh well....

Anonymous said...

Arnold, you are funny, I have encountered first hand how Canon 24-70s fail, and 16-35 soft all around the frame, there are many people complaining on trying several (at least 4) samples of L series lenses to get a good one and those people have since switched to Nikon.

Not to mention the new Nikon lenses have blown through all the resolution tests, the 14-24, 24-70 etc, don't be a sore loser...

Anonymous said...

Nikon, more than likely - they just work for me.

However, what I'd really like is for someone to produce a D3x-alike that's got all the feature-bloat removed. Artificial horizon? Well, if I really needed that I'd also need a voice facility that told me "you have now fallen over". All I really need is a simple camera with high megapixel and a full-frame sensor. Too much to ask?

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I am happy with my 1Ds MarkIII, it is working perfect and i love any ISO i am using, i don't want to convert to Nikon just because maybe at higher ISO it is better, and also no with new 5D MarkII the battle will be always there, so for me, i shouldn't care much about ISO, and i will keep upgrading my cameras once every year maybe.

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