Sunday, March 23, 2008

© Infringements - Don't be a Hypocrite

I'm really getting tired of this. Colleagues, both highly respected and prosumer alike, who have no regard for copyrights. I recently watched an amazing presentation of work by a noted photographer, who's work was enhanced by the aural addition of music by Enya. I know just how next to impossible it is to get permission for uses like this, as I have tried, so I am almost certain that she was infringing on Enya's copyright. I also continue to watch as a other photographers continue to promote videos/presentations where music I know to be popular, but which are on YouTube with music that it is almost certain to be infringing uses. I wish they would just take a pause and realize what they are doing.

(Continued after the Jump)

The hypocrisy continues. Friends who "share" a Photoshop or PhotoMechanic serial #, yet complain when their own work is stolen.

Interestingly enough, were I to provide a photograph that was not my own to an organization for their presentation, or to a website/blog to grow traffic/hits, the infringing party would be the organization or website/blog. It is the "publication" of the material, by the "publisher" that is the infringement, in large part. For a public performance, it would be the corporation or organization that provided the forum/programming that would likely be held accountable.

Several years ago, I was working a product launch for a pharmaceutical company for the sales reps who visit doctors offices to give them samples, and promote the product. The music that started the event was the Red Hot Chili Pepper's song "Give It Away Now", perfectly appropriate in terms of theme, inappropriate in terms of the infringement of the band's intellectual property by a company with IP of it's own in the form of the medicine they sell.

I am not a lawyer, but here's a good rule:
Unless you're commenting on the music itself, as in "listen to the multiple downbeats", or "the refrain here is repetitive...", making a claim that your use is "fair use" is likely not to hold water. When you use music to accompany your images, you need to get permission, or don't use it. Period.

Please post your comments by clicking the link below. If you've got questions, please pose them in our Photo Business Forum Flickr Group Discussion Threads.


Marshall said...

I'll try to do my own research on this as well, but since you've tried: what is the best way to try to get rights for use of music like that? Through the publishers?

John Harrington said...

Marshall --

Unless it's a big buy, they won't pay attention to you. beyond that, it's places like Broken Joey Records, or Triple Scoop Music, for music that gives you the right to use the recording for your own presentations.


Anonymous said...

This is a very hard road to navigate. BMI and ASCAP have licensing programs that don't make it any easier to understand. I've heard that these are somewhat deceptive in that they allow you to use works but not the actual "performances." But they don't tell you this explicitly. You have to go to the artist to ask for that.

Artists on the other hand don't always seem to mind if you use their music if give them credit.

I think if you are playing the music, you should be purchasing the music, once for each copy you distribute.

But, yes, photographers, like all other artists, have many in their ranks that don't feel others deserve the same copyright respect and protection that their precious works do.

Anonymous said...


Interesting post, recently, I started adding some slideshows to my site with the intent of creating a gallery of personal work to go along with my commercial portfolio.

As I was working on the slideshow, I plucked something from my itunes to go along with it and then it occurred to me that since I was essentially promoting my work, I might be violating the copyright of the musician by putting on my site as a background. So, I emailed the record company about this and predictably, never got a response. I emailed again and after a few tries, finally got a response to direct my request to someone else. Long story short, dozens of email to dozens of people and I never got an answer one way or another. Essentially, it's impossible to get permission to use songs in slideshows as a freelance photographer.

I'm certainly not advocating copyright infringement (in fact, I'm in the middle of suing an infringer right now) so I went without music and put the slideshow idea aside for the time being but, I can understand why the music industry has so much trouble with infringement when they make it so tough to get an easy answer.

Anonymous said...

Saying you "need" recognizable music from name musicians to promote your photography is no different than somebody saying they "need" recognizable photographs from name photographer to promote their music.

There are tons of places on the web that sell royalty-free music and/or rights-managed music, just like the same things for photography. People who need music should use one, or hire a musician to write and record them some, just like people who need photographs should license them or hire a photographer.

I don't see what's so hard about this either, myself.

Keith Emmerich said...

This is a great post. How can other people respect our copyright when we infringe on theirs?

I just finished a class in school and a few of the other students used music without acquiring the rights and still passed. The projects they created were amazing. What is even more amazing is our school has a recording arts department and all it took was a few minutes to ask someone to help. I now feel the next problem for them is now legally they can never use all that work for their portfolio.


Anonymous said...

If it ain't yours, don't use it. It's that simple.

Anonymous said...

The biggest whiners in the world are photographers who get their images lifted and used without their permission.

But the humorous thing is they never got them copyrighted in the first place. They're the same people that ask a friend to loan them the most recent upgrade for Photoshop and also to loan them the latest Green Day cd so that they can burn it to their iTunes.

These photographers can't even respect themselves and they expect others to respect their copyright, while they use excuses like "I'm only one person making a copy of this, Adobe is so hugh that they're not going to miss my 50 bucks".

Wake up!

Respect copyrights; stop making excuses.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this post. I have gotten flamed time and time again on photography forums for pointing this out.

Maybe now that YOU have said, it people will listen.

Anonymous said...

I know Enya, and if she found out that you or anyone else was using her music for display purposes without permission; boy she would be real pissed.

Anonymous said...

OK heres a few of points to think about:

I'm sure the Red Hot Chili's and Enya are real recognizable, but wouldn't this be an opportunity to find a smaller, possibly more local band or performer that might be agreeable to letting one use their music IN EXCHANGE for a link to their buy a song or album site? Or maybe a large credit with contact info at the start and/or end of a presentation. Overall, the mega acts don't really need more micro exposure but the micro acts might find it a real advantage to get their work out with a good CREDIT AND MARKETING CONECTION, or a reasonable usage fee for a profit use.
I would be SLIGHTLY less ticked-off about one of my images being infringed on if there was a photo credit and a link back to my site.(Yeah I know-dream on, but checkout the "free stuff" post on the APE blog).
Micro acts would probably be a lot easier to contact about stuff like this, rather than a major record label.
The key here is to make a win-win agreement with both parties and promote everyone's good work. Face it , most of us are the "little guys" all trying to make our things happen, so what if we make a little extra effort and help each other out...I, have a dream*
(*credit to MLK Jr. all rights reserved)
Last thing-most all photo buyers I hear talk or read about HATE music on websites. Really.

Unknown said...

I'm a photographer part time and a music teacher full time. Most music is just as protected (if not more) than any of our photography. The fact remains (as Chase pointed out recently) that both have become liquid. My interpretation of liquid is "easily stolen."

We must ethically honor the copyright of others. No, I don't have a grand idea that it will change the world, but its not about the world is it - its about a person as real as we are.

With that in mind, I turn to a moral thought; the person's music (or if your a musician - a person's images) used for your own gain can cross another line.


Perhaps you use a great song like "Butterfly Kisses" by Bob Carlisle (a Christian musician) for a slide show selling family photography and your site also contains nude photography. You've now not only crossed the ethical line of copyright, but probably a moral/respectful line of what the artist would or would not want to be promoting. Although Bob Carlisle probably takes delight in the promotion of beautiful families, he might not want to promote nude photography as well.

It could be reversed with music by an artist that would not want to promote a Christian agenda/web site as well.

I hope the point isn't misunderstood. We need to think not only of the earnings of the artist, but what their right is to what they want to be involved with in regards of their talents/gifts.

Anonymous said...

I've just finished a slide show using an old Thelonius Monk solo piano treatment of and old jazz standard.

It works great and of coarse it's copyrighted.

I play jazz guitar (fairly well) and was thinking maybe I could sort of get around this issue by recording my own version of this tune. The song is from the thirties.

I would then use my own recording.

Would this be a reasonable option?


Anonymous said...

Hi John, this post of yours rang a bell in my mind after I finished up a little study on software piracy. I ran a poll on my blog asking how many users of Photoshop and Lightroom are software pirates. The results were a little shocking with nearly 60% of Photoshop users being pirates. I just wonder how many of those 60% would be willing to give up their copyright on their photos.

Anonymous said...








Anonymous said...

情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣用品,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,情趣,美國aneros,rudeboy,英國rudeboy,英國Rocksoff,德國Fun Factory,Fun Factory,英國甜筒造型按摩座,甜筒造型按摩座,英國Rock Chic ,瑞典 Lelo ,英國Emotional Bliss,英國 E.B,荷蘭 Natural Contours,荷蘭 N C,美國 OhMiBod,美國 OMB,Naughti Nano ,音樂按摩棒,ipod按摩棒,美國 The Screaming O,美國TSO,美國TOPCO,美國Doc Johnson,美國CA Exotic,美國CEN,美國Nasstoy,美國Tonguejoy,英國Je Joue,美國Pipe Dream,美國California Exotic,美國NassToys,美國Vibropod,美國Penthouse,仿真按摩棒,矽膠按摩棒,猛男倒模,真人倒模,仿真倒模,PJUR,Zestra,適趣液,穿戴套具,日本NPG,雙頭龍,FANCARNAL,日本NIPPORI,日本GEL,日本Aqua Style,美國WET,費洛蒙,費洛蒙香水,仿真名器,av女優,打炮,做愛,性愛,口交,吹喇叭,肛交,魔女訓練大師,無線跳蛋,有線跳蛋,震動棒,震動保險套,震動套,TOY-情趣用品,情趣用品網,情趣購物網,成人用品網,情趣用品討論,成人購物網,鎖精套,鎖精環,持久環,持久套,拉珠,逼真按摩棒,名器,超名器,逼真老二,電動自慰,自慰,打手槍,仿真女郎,SM道具,SM,性感內褲,仿真按摩棒,pornograph,hunter系列,h動畫,成人動畫,成人卡通,情色動畫,情色卡通,色情動畫,色情卡通,無修正,禁斷,人妻,極悪調教,姦淫,近親相姦,顏射,盜攝,偷拍,本土自拍,素人自拍,公園露出,街道露出,野外露出,誘姦,迷姦,輪姦,凌辱,痴漢,痴女,素人娘,中出,巨乳,調教,潮吹,av,a片,成人影片,成人影音,線上影片,成人光碟,成人無碼,成人dvd,情色影音,情色影片,情色dvd,情色光碟,航空版,薄碼,色情dvd,色情影音,色情光碟,線上A片,免費A片,A片下載,成人電影,色情電影,TOKYO HOT,SKY ANGEL,一本道,SOD,S1,ALICE JAPAN,皇冠系列,老虎系列,東京熱,亞熱,武士系列,新潮館,情趣用品,約定金生,約定金生,情趣,情趣商品,約定金生,情趣網站,跳蛋, 約定金生,按摩棒,充氣娃娃,約定金生,自慰套,G點,性感內衣,約定金生,情趣內衣,約定金生,角色扮演,生日禮物,生日精品,約定金生,自慰,打手槍,約定金生,潮吹,高潮,後庭,約定金生,情色論譠,影片下載,約定金生,遊戲下載,手機鈴聲,約定金生,音樂下載, 約定金生,約定金生,開獎號碼,統一發票號碼,夜市,統一發票對獎,保險套, 約定金生,約定金生,做愛,約定金生,減肥,美容,瘦身,約定金生,當舖,軟體下載,汽車,機車, 約定金生,手機,來電答鈴, 約定金生,週年慶,美食,約定金生,徵信社,網頁設計,網站設計, 約定金生,室內設計, 約定金生,靈異照片,約定金生,同志,約定金生,聊天室,運動彩券,大樂透,約定金生,威力彩,搬家公司,除蟲,偷拍,自拍, 約定金生,無名破解,av女優, 約定金生,小說,約定金生,民宿,大樂透開獎號碼,大樂透中獎號碼,威力彩開獎號碼,約定金生,討論區,痴漢,懷孕, 約定金生,約定金生,美女交友,約定金生,交友,日本av,日本,機票, 約定金生,香水,股市, 約定金生,股市行情, 股市分析,租房子,成人影片,約定金生,免費影片,醫學美容, 約定金生,免費算命,算命,約定金生,姓名配對,姓名學,約定金生,姓名學免費,遊戲, 約定金生,好玩遊戲,好玩遊戲區,約定金生,線上遊戲,新遊戲,漫畫,約定金生,線上漫畫,動畫,成人圖片, 約定金生,桌布,桌布下載,電視節目表, 約定金生,線上電視,約定金生,線上a片,約定金生,線上掃毒,線上翻譯,購物車,約定金生,身分證製造機,身分證產生器,手機,二手車,中古車, 約定金生,約定金生,法拍屋,約定金生,歌詞,音樂,音樂網,火車,房屋,情趣用品,約定金生,情趣,情趣商品,情趣網站,跳蛋,約定金生,按摩棒,充氣娃娃,自慰套, 約定金生, G點,性感內衣,約定金生,情趣內衣,約定金生,角色扮演,生日禮物,精品,禮品,約定金生,自慰,打手槍,潮吹,高潮,約定金生,後庭,情色論譠,約定金生,影片下載,約定金生,遊戲下載,手機鈴聲,音樂下載,開獎號碼,統一發票,夜市,保險套,做愛,約定金生,減肥,美容,瘦身,當舖,約定金生,軟體下載,約定金生,汽車,機車,手機,來電答鈴,約定金生,週年慶,美食,徵信社,網頁設計,網站設計,室內設計,靈異照片, 約定金生,同志,聊天室,約定金生,運動彩券,,大樂透,約定金生,威力彩,搬家公司,除蟲,偷拍,自拍, 約定金生,無名破解, av女優,小說,民宿,約定金生,大樂透開獎號碼,大樂透中獎號碼,威力彩開獎號碼,討論區,痴漢, 約定金生,懷孕,約定金生,美女交友,約定金生,交友,日本av ,日本,機票, 約定金生,香水,股市, 約定金生,股市行情,股市分析,租房子,約定金生,成人影片,免費影片,醫學美容,免費算命,算命, 約定金生,姓名配對,姓名學, 約定金生,姓名學免費,遊戲,約定金生,好玩遊戲,約定金生,好玩遊戲區,線上遊戲,新遊戲,漫畫,線上漫畫,動畫,成人圖片,桌布,約定金生,桌布下載,電視節目表,線上電視, 約定金生,線上a片,線上a片,線上翻譯, 約定金生,購物車,身分證製造機,約定金生,身分證產生器,手機,二手車,中古車,法拍屋,歌詞,音樂,音樂網, 約定金生,借錢,房屋,街頭籃球,找工作,旅行社,約定金生,六合彩,整型,水噹噹,貸款,貸款,信用貸款,宜蘭民宿,花蓮民宿,未婚聯誼,網路購物,珠海,下川島,常平,珠海,澳門機票,香港機票,婚友,婚友社,未婚聯誼,交友,婚友,婚友社,單身聯誼,未婚聯誼,未婚聯誼,婚友社,婚友,婚友社,單身聯誼,婚友,未婚聯誼,婚友社,未婚聯誼,單身聯誼,單身聯誼,婚友,單身聯誼,未婚聯誼,婚友,交友,交友,婚友社,婚友社,婚友社,大陸新娘,大陸新娘,大陸新娘,越南新娘,越南新娘,外籍新娘,外籍新娘,台中坐月子中心,搬家公司,搬家,搬家,搬家公司,線上客服,網頁設計,線上客服,網頁設計,網頁設計,土地貸款,免費資源,電腦教學,wordpress,人工植牙,關鍵字,關鍵字,seo,seo,網路排名,自然排序,網路排名軟體,

Anonymous said...

クレジットカード 海外旅行保険
薬剤師 求人
合宿 免許

Anonymous said...

^^ nice blog!! ^@^

徵信, 徵信, 徵信, 徵信社, 徵信社, 徵信社, 感情挽回, 婚姻挽回, 挽回婚姻, 挽回感情, 徵信, 徵信社, 徵信, 徵信, 捉姦, 徵信公司, 通姦, 通姦罪, 抓姦, 抓猴, 捉猴, 捉姦, 監聽, 調查跟蹤, 反跟蹤, 外遇問題, 徵信, 捉姦, 女人徵信, 女子徵信, 外遇問題, 女子徵信, 徵信社, 外遇, 徵信公司, 徵信網, 外遇蒐證, 抓姦, 抓猴, 捉猴, 調查跟蹤, 反跟蹤, 感情挽回, 挽回感情, 婚姻挽回, 挽回婚姻, 外遇沖開, 抓姦, 女子徵信, 外遇蒐證, 外遇, 通姦, 通姦罪, 贍養費, 徵信, 徵信社, 抓姦, 徵信社, 徵信, 徵信公司, 徵信社, 徵信, 徵信公司, 徵信社, 徵信公司, 女人徵信, 外遇

徵信, 徵信網, 徵信社, 徵信網, 外遇, 徵信, 徵信社, 抓姦, 徵信, 女人徵信, 徵信社, 女人徵信社, 外遇, 抓姦, 徵信公司, 徵信社, 徵信社, 徵信社, 徵信社, 徵信社, 徵信社, 女人徵信社, 徵信社, 徵信, 徵信社, 徵信, 女子徵信社, 女子徵信社, 女子徵信社, 女子徵信社, 徵信, 徵信社, 徵信, 徵信社, 徵信, 徵信社, 徵信, 徵信社, 徵信, 徵信社,

Newer Post Older Post