tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post4590291681788125312..comments2024-03-20T00:37:30.189-04:00Comments on Photo Business News & Forum: PILFERED Magazine - Copyright Scumbags10John Harringtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16941161605443479300noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-68350908411362525242010-04-03T16:15:45.668-04:002010-04-03T16:15:45.668-04:00Unfortunately for everyone, Pilfered Magazine has ...Unfortunately for everyone, Pilfered Magazine has gone offline. It is likely the shutdown came from people who were outraged at the conduct of the magazine to download, screenshoot and scan their way into notoriety. The concept of Pilfered was to curate a selection of images from the web and beyond, and place them into one location. There did not appear to be any pecuniary gain for Pilfered, and it was unclear whether or not that was their intent. Rather it appeared the sheer enjoyment came from curating images they found and possibly they got some enjoyment out of watching people squirm. <br /><br />Plain and simple, the concept was genius. They did what museums do daily, without an acquisition budget. Both fortunate and unfortunate for some, Pilfered was ahead of their time. Copyright law will undoubtedly change and adapt not only because of technology but because of people like the founders of Pilfered. Why should their artistic expression be restricted where there is no pecuniary gain? Hopefully Pilfered will be back soon enough. Maybe the founders will become wealthy enough to lobby amendments to present copyright law. We'll see. No matter what, it is unfortunate they went down. One less creative resource. Thanks everyone. <br /><br />http://www.theartreserve.com/blog-newsThe Art Reservehttp://www.theartreserve.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-68330905616317734082010-02-17T09:50:37.479-05:002010-02-17T09:50:37.479-05:00This site appears no different then Imagespark whi...This site appears no different then Imagespark which is also run by the ad agency teehan + lax. Seems like no one wants to do their homework these days.<br /><br />http://www.imgspark.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-29528370340658287002010-02-12T17:09:19.678-05:002010-02-12T17:09:19.678-05:00Are they going to change their name to BUSTED MAGA...Are they going to change their name to BUSTED MAGAZINE?John G from Hickory, NCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-23415248314398019242010-02-09T13:00:51.419-05:002010-02-09T13:00:51.419-05:00I visited the site the other day, all images are d...I visited the site the other day, all images are down and they're asking for artists to submit images, citing exposure and all that jazz. Curious to see how that turns out...Kozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575267832935079316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-50651218863829984872010-02-06T20:30:09.895-05:002010-02-06T20:30:09.895-05:00Pilfered is encouraging theft. Why not have someon...Pilfered is encouraging theft. Why not have someone post Mickey Mouse and Disney stuff on there and then notify Disney about it. FBI will go after the magazine and no amount of disclaimers will help them. You can't disclaim aiding and abetting lawbreaking and Disney is downright nasty to those who interfere with Mickey and the gang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-42894914375465822562010-02-05T12:59:16.909-05:002010-02-05T12:59:16.909-05:00It looks like they got a little too much heat. All...It looks like they got a little too much heat. All the content has been removed and replaced with a vague, feel-good, re-imagining statement. I would guess the backlash from all the press resulted in a lot of DMCA take down requests. Given their brazenness I can't imaging they saw the light without some real and potentially costly threats.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323371750376649045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-81674003681381150652010-02-05T10:58:08.873-05:002010-02-05T10:58:08.873-05:00It seems Pilfered magazine has now backtracked. Th...It seems Pilfered magazine has now backtracked. The website now says:<br /><br />To our community of photographers, artists and viewers of PILFERED:<br /><br />The sole purpose of this site is to bring awareness to all the amazing images and work that is being shared on the web. This blog/site was not created for profit. Our guest editors has consistently been excited by the opportunity to create their own story through shared images.<br /><br />With respect to our community, we would like to announce that we are officially re-imagining our perspective. Our hopes are to give you a better, more inclusive and suitable place where you can continue to be inspired and participate in creating content. ln pursuit of this endeavor, we would like to continue receiving your suggestions and encourage you to help us build this platform by submitting only copyrighted and permission based content.<br /><br />Please continue to email your submissions and suggestions to submit@pilferedmagazine.com<br /><br />Thank you and please be patient while we try to build a better and more robust website for your use and enjoyment. Our goal is and always has been. by the people forthe people.<br /><br />Love.<br /><br />So they also think being "not for profit" authorizes copyright infringement.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />David<br /><br />-- <br />David Brabyn<br />Photojournalist – New York<br />http://www.davidbrabyn.com/<br /><br />Web Presence for Photographers:<br />http://www.digitaltechparis.com/David Brabynhttp://www.davidbrabyn.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-71197301137689676092010-02-04T15:30:03.984-05:002010-02-04T15:30:03.984-05:00John,
Great work.
Thanks for notifying ASMP.
I...John,<br /><br /><br />Great work.<br /><br />Thanks for notifying ASMP.<br /><br />I received an email indicating they intend to look into this matter.<br /><br /><br />Chris JohnsonChris Johnsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-73297434203463418032010-02-02T09:58:54.345-05:002010-02-02T09:58:54.345-05:00In addition to mediatemple.net the person that run...In addition to mediatemple.net the person that runs the magazine, that goes by RUDJ, can also be found here: http://www.rudj.com<br /><br />He lists contact info also on his site in case anybody would like to speak with him.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17038597902397466257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-92034982870130617732010-02-01T17:00:48.838-05:002010-02-01T17:00:48.838-05:00all of the well-know images on the site are credit...all of the well-know images on the site are credited. people are encouraged to give credits to photographers. What people are really upset about (like alway) is money. And its completely understandable that the maybe-profiting of the people who run the site is offensive. But I know for a fact it just isn't happening. There is no add space at pilfered. No one, and I mean NOBODY, makes a dime. There is NO money involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-43677026244422646602010-02-01T09:35:13.854-05:002010-02-01T09:35:13.854-05:00I love how nearly everyone is on the copyrights ar...I love how nearly everyone is on the copyrights are changing bandwagon. my experience agrees with the idea that copyrights are changing, but not in the direction that pilfered is headed. I'm seeing photographers who don't understand copyrights trying to hold on, but going out of business and leaving clients frustrated about getting licenses to reuse the work. this has resulted in many companies demanding copyrights to insure they have reuse rights. clients are leaning towards copyright ownership over unlimited use, with neither being that advantageous to the client or the photographer. (these types of clients want ownership of the copyright just like they want ownership of a patent)<br /><br />The other change I see is in the which copyrights are respected and which are violated. Movies and writing tend towards respect; music, graphics works, and photography are leaning towards violation. Some of these attitudes can be seen in whether someone would rather own or stream content, music studies in the UK say people want to own by any means rather then stream; and with movies people would rather stream then own. royalty free and penny stock show that people want to own photography, add that to magazines like pilfered and we see people want to own photography by any means. <br /><br />In court the actions of groups like pilfered don't hold up, one large settlement against them would likely end their pilfering. but in many cases it just costs too much to go after copyright violators. Too bad Attorney Generals don't pursue copyright infringer's since a not-for-profit infringement can carry a sentence of 1-10 years for any actual infringement according to federal law.<br /><br />educating students and businesses may help, and I'm glad for blogs like this one that help to educate people.Walt Sorensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006428628577603325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-75447108472182138132010-01-31T19:11:08.264-05:002010-01-31T19:11:08.264-05:00You can see some of the parasites' attempts at...You can see some of the parasites' attempts at defending their actions in comments at http://copyrightaction.com/forum/pilfered-magazine and http://www.photoinduced.com/1897/pilfered-a-cool-new-online-mag-with-a-provacative-name/Tony Sleephttp://copyrightaction.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-53673673709710530922010-01-31T09:23:33.646-05:002010-01-31T09:23:33.646-05:00I am holding my breath as I wait to see them shut ...I am holding my breath as I wait to see them shut down, to see their staff sued, and see the Copyright laws rewritten to be more appropriate and enforceable for a digital age. Plenty of people are working on copyright issues, for example, The Copyright Alliance. Find them at<br /> http://www.copyrightalliance.org .<br />Thanks for writing about this issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-64848127134978829672010-01-31T02:24:06.507-05:002010-01-31T02:24:06.507-05:00And by the way, everyone should keep in mind that ...And by the way, everyone should keep in mind that this is NOT the egalitarian, art & love, feel-good, well-intentioned website that they'd like you to believe it is. The people here who are stealing your images are being paid as they the use stolen images to "put together presentations for various commercial ad and editorial jobs." They created it in order to shave hours off of their research. It's not OK that artists and photographers get nothing (and believe me, while a credit is nice - if it even happens at all - it's not the same as income), is it really OK that the Pilfered people make money using someone else's work? I don't think so.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05551431664907607581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-54728334472553294532010-01-30T20:36:59.528-05:002010-01-30T20:36:59.528-05:00On their "About"-Page there is a strange...On their "About"-Page there is a strange comment, critisising what they do and then saying:<br /><br />"Credit your sources. Send traffic to these artists’ sites so they can keep working and produce images for you to admire."<br /><br />Wow, this is strange, as if anyone could make a living from people watching photos on ones website.<br /><br />This illustrates the erosion of copyright and sense for fair pay. Somehow some people already seem to believe, that a credit is some kind of payment or at least sponsorship that makes further payment redundant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-90304107525742768492010-01-29T22:52:56.931-05:002010-01-29T22:52:56.931-05:00A simple whois search on the pilferedmagazine.com ...A simple whois search on the pilferedmagazine.com domain shows that mediatemple.net is the site's ISP. One way to deal with these scumbags would be for photographers whose work has been used without permission to contact mediatemple.net, on whose servers the site resides, and file a DMCA notification of copyright infringement. Perhaps mediatemple.net will simply shut down the site rather than become liable for copyright infringement claims. This is of course assuming that the folks who run mediatemple.net are not scumbags. But, you know what they say about assuming. At any rate the mediatemple.net website lists a phone number: 877-578-4000<br /><br />John G. from Hickory, NCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-15167448461066892262010-01-29T12:04:49.585-05:002010-01-29T12:04:49.585-05:00As you pointed out this philosophy has worked well...As you pointed out this philosophy has worked well for the bittorrent sites! :)Davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-69803436462575297272010-01-29T11:37:23.561-05:002010-01-29T11:37:23.561-05:00John,
This seems so absurd that I actually wonder...John,<br /><br />This seems so absurd that I actually wonder if the "guests" were actually guests, or were their identities "Pilfered" for this site?<br /><br />This shit can't dry up, and blow in the wind quick enough.<br /><br />JonathanJonathan Levinhttp://www.levinphotography.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-59035072065558480712010-01-29T11:23:21.844-05:002010-01-29T11:23:21.844-05:00Cutting edge??? It's a sad day when any ration...Cutting edge??? It's a sad day when any rational human being would consider theft cutting edge.Jeffhttp://www.photoabuse.comnoreply@blogger.com