tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post6553835635058989583..comments2024-03-07T11:47:12.092-05:00Comments on Photo Business News & Forum: Not Out-Gunned, DevaluedJohn Harringtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16941161605443479300noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-16149702734662511912009-09-13T12:55:44.370-04:002009-09-13T12:55:44.370-04:00Commnter Mike Spivey is spot on with his comments....Commnter Mike Spivey is spot on with his comments.<br /><br />Because of the impact of technology, except for a small number of top professionals, photography is becoming the domain for hobbiests.<br /><br />First, the internet has devalued photography. The meme that information is free has made it impossible for publishers to charge a subscription fee. If publishers can't make money how can they afford to pay writers and photographers?<br /><br />Second the digital camera revolution has made everyone and his uncle a photographer. And the learning curve is not so steep as it was with film. The number of talented amateurs has skyrocketed and they all want to see their work published. They have day jobs so don't care if they get paid or not.<br /><br />IMHO there is no future in photography as a profession.Gerryhttp://www.lagunabeachbikini.com/index.php/category/opinion-columns/roving_photographer/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-82294794846398033542009-09-03T15:50:56.508-04:002009-09-03T15:50:56.508-04:00The problem is that the because of technology, the...The problem is that the because of technology, the professional photographer is going the way of the professional typesetter. I, too feel a twinge when I hear of big glossy magazines paying almost nothing for cover shots. But..... want to know why they do it? Because they can. 20 years ago there weren't enough amateurs with enough good equipment to be concerned about.<br /><br />There will always be high end photogs. But for garden variety, home town guys, the business model just isn't there and all the workshops and techniques can't overcome that.<br /><br />Look at what many pros are doing now. Workshops. Blogs that sell advertising. Books. Magazine Articles. And a client here and there. <br /><br />If the guys giving photography business workshops (as opposed to those showing us photography techniques) really had it figured out, they would be back home making a fortune.<br /><br />I feel for guys that spent a lifetime learning their craft. But technology moves on.Mike Spiveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09481252709062007438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-71597802491765987162009-09-01T11:17:51.858-04:002009-09-01T11:17:51.858-04:00John - While I often agree with you on business ma...John - While I often agree with you on business matters, I often disagree with some of the nuts and bolts of your arguements. This time however, you have eloquently presented the case. Well doneAndy Ptakhttp://www.andrewptak.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-14457429934137112062009-08-31T08:48:56.546-04:002009-08-31T08:48:56.546-04:00For photographers feeling too shy about charging &...For photographers feeling too shy about charging "full prices" when starting out, try Googling the writings of advertising photographer Jeff Sedlik, especially on APANet. Sedlik carefully explains something counter-intuitive to Amateur Photog's writings, that a young photographer waiting tables to keep body and soul together has a huge advantage in being able to pick and choose which jobs will advance his career, that a young photographer needs to maintain that choosiness once he stops waiting on tables, that a young photographer can avoid the damages caused by working cheaply simply by waiting tables.Andre Friedmannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-77759224248057283332009-08-30T22:22:39.825-04:002009-08-30T22:22:39.825-04:00On the seamless note, here is a time lapse video o...On the seamless note, here is a time lapse video of Advertising Photographer Peter Belanger shooting product for a MacWorld cover. Not just point and shoot...<br /><br />http://www.vimeo.com/5989754Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-19693689191356654802009-08-30T07:38:44.797-04:002009-08-30T07:38:44.797-04:00No discount in Art , even when I started I newer a...No discount in Art , even when I started I newer asked lower prices.<br />Once you start low you will never ask for more and when you work for less you give less.Maldives Photoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13672849924578261847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-46283687080881067582009-08-30T00:26:21.354-04:002009-08-30T00:26:21.354-04:00In order to create stock images, is it rational to...In order to create stock images, is it rational to offer a small business owner (who was not planning to buy any photographic services in the immediate time frame) use of stock images I shoot of their product and process in their place of business -- IN EXCHANGE FOR being allowed to shoot in their workplace with their full cooperation/signed clearances, etc..?TEDTHEBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-53652761818198242252009-08-29T21:47:31.595-04:002009-08-29T21:47:31.595-04:00The thing is, that amateur photogs have a place to...The thing is, that amateur photogs have a place too. I'm starting out and there's no way I can charge "normal" fees so I work for lower prices ($75/h) to gain experience and purchase equipment etc...<br /><br />I'm not doing any mag covers or would have the balls to say I could handle a wedding. I make sure that I let the clients know of my limited experience and point them to my website so they know what they will get.Amateur Photoghttp://www.celticland.com/about/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-24659174135540974782009-08-29T21:17:57.299-04:002009-08-29T21:17:57.299-04:00Could this just be more the the "Good Enough ...Could this just be more the the "Good Enough Revolution" at work?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/magazine/17-09/ff_goodenough" rel="nofollow">Wired > Good Enough Revolution</a>Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01183340214291713431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-2899157664116502772009-08-29T17:39:40.133-04:002009-08-29T17:39:40.133-04:00I've always wondered how pros critical of amat...I've always wondered how pros critical of amateur, pro-sumer, volunteer, or free photographers got where they are without passing through the trials and errors of at least some of those categories without devaluing the industry. Just about every honest pro will admit to suffering through the trials, failures and illusions of grandeur on their way to figuring it out.<br /><br />I see limited concern about low tier shooters from the top shooters in the business. Quite the opposite actually, many of them seem hell bent on helping them step it up a notch rather than knocking them down a few pegs. <br /><br />Even the cocky loudmouths who don't have a clue how far they have to go, and clearly deserve a good swift kick in the pants, eventually either fail or grow out of it. I don't think they really have much of an impact on the overall industry until they get good enough to know better and that's where the tireless investment of the pros who've gone before really pays off for all of us. I've been that guy, haven't we all?Kevin Halliburtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100073328363751503noreply@blogger.com