tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post4298816378739394574..comments2024-03-20T00:37:30.189-04:00Comments on Photo Business News & Forum: When A Shoot Goes BadJohn Harringtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16941161605443479300noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-68962389134684429002008-05-03T16:44:00.000-04:002008-05-03T16:44:00.000-04:00[...] These are photographers who, in many cases, ...[...] These are photographers who, in many cases, don't have their act together when it comes to having their bases covered when things like <A HREF="http://voluntary-insurance.onlinebiznes.com/" REL="nofollow">insurance</A> and so forth.[...]Alexiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16124517799154124073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-38386261912670547962008-04-06T04:26:00.000-04:002008-04-06T04:26:00.000-04:00the final photo used on the cover has an out of fo...the final photo used on the cover has an out of focus lion.<BR/><BR/>if my cat saw something smaller than her that was moving around the way she was, she would've pounced on it too.<BR/><BR/>surprised that the animal handlers allowed the shoot to continue, since the lion was obviously extremely frisky.<BR/><BR/>liability insurance is extremely important. but i would think any professional photographer willing to accept such an assignment would make sure the contract stated that liability for any of the lion's actions DID NOT rest with the photographer.<BR/><BR/>yes, the photoshop route would've prevented this incident. even if it is EDITORIAL, nothing's wrong with doing a photoshop composite, as long as it's captioned as such. even national geographic continues to use "photo illustrations" in their features (i'm not talking about the pyramid fiasco of a couple decades ago either). wired magazine covers are another example that pops to mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-34597883147734848092008-03-30T10:15:00.000-04:002008-03-30T10:15:00.000-04:00It seems as though the author of this post didn't ...It seems as though the author of this post didn't quite read the story over at Galbraith, which starts off by clearly identifying the photographer involved in the shoot as a staffer at the Toronto Star, which I'd imagine is quite well insured, and certainly is "conning" anyone with startup pay scales.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-34443229750229748852008-03-28T23:42:00.000-04:002008-03-28T23:42:00.000-04:00Anon, I guess controlled is four broken ribs and I...Anon, I guess controlled is four broken ribs and I also didn't realize all cover assignments were "real". <BR/><BR/>I won't repeat this to sound condescending since I know you can read it twice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-26094509759672466442008-03-28T20:21:00.000-04:002008-03-28T20:21:00.000-04:00Mr.JG, it is an editorial shoot. it is for real ...Mr.JG, it is an editorial shoot. it is for real ,not some photoshop wet dream.<BR/><BR/>Repeat - it is an editorial shoot. Not a photoshop wet dream. Get it. Respect that editorial, even if is controlled, is still - real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-25676292690883301452008-03-28T16:50:00.000-04:002008-03-28T16:50:00.000-04:00We use insurance agents who provide certificates o...We use insurance agents who provide certificates of insurance (for both liability *and* workers' comp) at no extra charge. I can't tell you how often including those certificates in a *proposal* (when we don't yet have the assignment) has, suddenly, made such certificates a *requirement* for all bidding parties. It's kind of a FUD tactic we've used with some success on mid-sized and larger corporate projects: the project manager suddenly remembers that such certificates are a part of the intended scope of work.Walter Dufresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13402053371818899408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-90554495962126653112008-03-28T12:32:00.000-04:002008-03-28T12:32:00.000-04:00A quick solution for this example would be to just...A quick solution for this example would be to just photograph the elements separately and combine them in post. Looks like both the model(kung fu master) and lion suffered the consequences of doing it otherwise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-51972251249877423722008-03-26T14:02:00.000-04:002008-03-26T14:02:00.000-04:001. The cost of liability insurance is very cheap -...1. The cost of liability insurance is very cheap -- it's a no brainer to have it (i.e., $700/year for $2 million liability plus equipment coverage for a basic kit).<BR/><BR/>2. You should have a separate policy to cover every major shoot, or at least those that are dangerous. Add a line item in your estimates.<BR/><BR/>3. Get an insurance agent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-33679893106814175932008-03-26T12:46:00.000-04:002008-03-26T12:46:00.000-04:00With all the BS she was spouting about how much of...With all the BS she was spouting about how much of a master of this art she was; that lion surely kicked her ass.<BR/><BR/>Take that "young grasshopper".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-62269053345429716912008-03-25T21:20:00.000-04:002008-03-25T21:20:00.000-04:00I'm surprised the model doesn't own that zoo or th...I'm surprised the model doesn't own that zoo or the newspaper by now. What kind of contract does the lion trainer work with????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-24667791920305555332008-03-25T20:26:00.000-04:002008-03-25T20:26:00.000-04:00that's almost funny; a martial arts 'expert', a de...that's almost funny; a martial arts 'expert', a devotee of a martial art inspired by the animal kingdom no less, who has no idea when a 400lb animal is jumping on her and clearly no ability to fall without damaging herself.<BR/><BR/>aren't martial arts supposed to teach you that stuff?<BR/><BR/>on the photography note, even simple things like someone tripping over your tripod legs in the street can land you in a LOT of trouble without insurance. <BR/><BR/>get it or don't call yourself a photographer, i say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-61140167525665668532008-03-25T18:43:00.000-04:002008-03-25T18:43:00.000-04:00I hope that this is a lesson to all starting photo...I hope that this is a lesson to all starting photographers. Photography is a business and if you're not prepared to treat it as such you will pay dearly.<BR/><BR/>Having liability insurance is an essential tools for the editorial photographer. Go without it and the day you have talent slip and fall on your set is the day you close up shop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com