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Check this guy!It's...Just one comment: Yuri Arcurs. Check this guy!<BR/>It's not about selling a photo for 1$. It's about selling a photo 1000 times for 1 $. That means 1000$ for a photo (per year :) i think microstock is future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-84386045253309502092008-05-01T04:18:00.000-04:002008-05-01T04:18:00.000-04:00You really have the time to write such article... ...You really have the time to write such article... Or you're frustrated?<BR/>Agencies may fail, be them trads or microstock. You fail to see the new concept, you're doomed, unless you're in a very strong shape (financially, creatively and business wise). <BR/>So, you found an example of a microstock failing. They popup like mushrooms, of course some fail. There were others before. But how many traditionals have you heard about lately, that go out of business? Compare that percentage-wise to the number of newly lauched traditionals.... Scary, isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-30196527378579802072008-04-30T13:15:00.000-04:002008-04-30T13:15:00.000-04:00Some rebuttal, on a 'real' forum:http://www.micros...Some rebuttal, on a 'real' forum:<BR/>http://www.microstockgroup.com/index.php/topic,4469.msg44906Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-80444505626610223632008-04-30T09:32:00.000-04:002008-04-30T09:32:00.000-04:00I feel that I should remind the author . . . We're...I feel that I should remind the author . . . We're in the 21st Century now. Traditional protections of all artists — graphic, photo, music and all — are undergoing radical change and the change is certainly not yet over.<BR/><BR/>Given your infinite amount of monkeys with typewriters (or word processors?) one of them will write King Lear. Another will write King Lear, omitting a coma. Another will write King Lear with an extra word. And so on. Ad infinitum. So what now is the value of King Lear?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-18430528493791287182008-04-30T08:58:00.000-04:002008-04-30T08:58:00.000-04:00You don't seem to understand the basics of a new w...You don't seem to understand the basics of a new world order: There will always be "professionals" to do the high end productions but for the rest there will certainly be "microstockers" or whatever you call them. <BR/><BR/>Sorry man: No more 350 USD for one lousy image! Get used to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-56169119440184628462008-04-29T17:00:00.000-04:002008-04-29T17:00:00.000-04:00You all make me laugh. Answer this question - are ...You all make me laugh. Answer this question - are microstock photos crap? <BR/>If you answer yes, then why you are afraid of microstock? There are two possibility: 1, your images are crap too so you fear competition from weekend shooters. 2, you don't understand that good quality photos don't sell for $1. Read Dan Heller article on Myth that microstock hurt and maybe you can understand.<BR/>If you answer no that you think microstock photos are not crap your fear is real and your days have numbers. you are victim of technology and you not good enough to survive. bye bye!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09230242164447328256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-31187296547738201282008-04-21T10:53:00.000-04:002008-04-21T10:53:00.000-04:00Peace out Oli and all the other craptastic houses ...Peace out Oli and all the other craptastic houses of cheep photography.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-62036088372605494432008-04-20T12:34:00.000-04:002008-04-20T12:34:00.000-04:00The Theory: Lose $2.00 on every sale, but make it ...The Theory: Lose $2.00 on every sale, but make it up with volume sales.<BR/><BR/>Proved.<BR/><BR/>The Premise: What's not a good business model?<BR/><BR/><BR/>I see this as one dose of 'good' news to some of us non-adapted dinosaurs. Whether it merits a told-you-so attitude or that your predictions of the MS industry will come true may still be premature. Show me the same headline for a dozen other similar agencies, and maybe then I'll believe that any change as come. Regretfully, I won't be holding my breath, but I will shout from the rooftop on each occasion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-56256251873685972052008-04-18T22:06:00.000-04:002008-04-18T22:06:00.000-04:00Anon, you raise interesting issues w.r.t. the insu...Anon, you raise interesting issues w.r.t. the insufficient marketing of LuckyOliver & its purpose as a loss-making-business. Could you point us to links (forum postings, statements elsewhere, etc) that back up your statements?Eric Schmiedlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754583876940071038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-7948674884307260412008-04-18T20:27:00.000-04:002008-04-18T20:27:00.000-04:00LuckyOliver is certainly not a good example to bas...LuckyOliver is certainly not a good example to base your predictions on for the future of microstock. The guy that ran it (Bryan) was famous for not marketing the site and even a complete idiot would be able to forsee it was destined to fail, it has been said the site was just set up as a 'loss making business' and looking back at the history it would appear this could be true.<BR/>As for the future of microstock you have to wonder why Getty bought iStockphoto and Corbis,Jupiter amd Inmagine have all set up their own microstock sites, hardly the thing to do in a market that isn't going to survive.<BR/>You can bury your heads in the sand if you want, or do what most Pro photographers are doing and that is keep up with the market.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-68923395561556386212008-04-18T18:32:00.000-04:002008-04-18T18:32:00.000-04:00Amen!Amen!starrmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15358793368453803132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-21903424559100909972008-04-18T15:31:00.000-04:002008-04-18T15:31:00.000-04:00Is this a failure of the model or their marketing ...Is this a failure of the model or their marketing (or lack of it?)<BR/><BR/>I am familiar with only a couple of micro-stock agencies, mostly because I don't shoot for that market.<BR/><BR/>This was the first time I'd heard of this company, but there are several others that I'd recognise the name if I saw it again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-76331086201447044472008-04-17T15:53:00.000-04:002008-04-17T15:53:00.000-04:00Really this development is anything but a surprise...Really this development is anything but a surprise. There will certainly be more that fail. I've never been a believer that microstock would take over. I agree there will likely be some that survive, but their losses will be offset by profitable arms of larger corporations. I still don't see the model being profitable to survive in the long run whether sheltered by a larger corporation or not. As you've stated it is just a matter of time before more fall...Jim Goldsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17195806843469594705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-35262917108295327722008-04-17T11:01:00.000-04:002008-04-17T11:01:00.000-04:00I am of the opinion that this business, like so ma...I am of the opinion that this business, like so many "new paradigms" are just proofs of the fact that there is no free lunch.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, it is forays into these ill-advised ventures that hurts so many people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-80168272573132459162008-04-17T10:12:00.000-04:002008-04-17T10:12:00.000-04:00Wow, maybe it is just because I am new to the game...Wow, maybe it is just because I am new to the game, but it seems hard to claim the moral high ground and exhibit such hateful bitterness at the same time. I always thought it was pretty obvious that the microstocks were for amateurs and lo-budgets, from each side of the equation. Amateur and lo-budget photographers and amateur and lo-budget designers looking for images. Like I said, I am new... so I just see the news, I don't really feel it like some who make a sizable chunk of their change on in the stock market might, but what I do know is that there is definitely a lack of professionalism in being so excited over another persons failure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-47525166623045439322008-04-17T08:30:00.000-04:002008-04-17T08:30:00.000-04:00The $1.00 micrstock agencies are clearly destined ...The $1.00 micrstock agencies are clearly destined for doom. Only for the fact that the next agencies will have a better cost model. FREE.<BR/><BR/>With the growing CCTV surveillance , almost in every corner of our lives, these images will be made available free to the public and corporations alike, mind you just for the annual fee of a donation to the winning party.<BR/><BR/>(tongue-in-check)<BR/><BR/>There are many regular jobs that have disappeared in the past and many photography job will disappear in the future. Understanding that change and adapting to new business models is the key to survival.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for all the articles on these changes and I hope we can all learn where the new real long-term directions are going.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Niels HenriksenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-20328174950760930162008-04-17T07:40:00.000-04:002008-04-17T07:40:00.000-04:00Walter,I think having images on a gazillion places...Walter,<BR/><BR/>I think having images on a gazillion places is pretty common with the microstockers. I've often seem them brag--as they are wont to do since it's primarily an ego-driven "business"--about their monthly returns versus traditional stock and, if you press them on it, it turns out it they have their images everywhere with each place contributing some tiny amount of money.<BR/><BR/>Here's hoping LuckyOliver's demise is the beginning of a trend.Mark Scheuernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276892867286487970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-49603758336257732822008-04-17T07:01:00.000-04:002008-04-17T07:01:00.000-04:00I followed the last link in your article and found...I followed the last link in your article and found it interesting that one reply listed 24 places where they market their RF images. How many outlets does it take to make money in the world of microstock? How many outlets have your RM images?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-66379148949794334492008-04-17T05:18:00.000-04:002008-04-17T05:18:00.000-04:00re: the eventual demise of microstock, I'm not so ...re: the eventual demise of microstock, I'm not so sure about that. By its very nature, the demands are mostly back-end software and server administration/maintenance (established fields with established costs) rather than human-to-human support. I have a lot of difficulty believing that people are calling up iStockphoto to ask them to throw together a lightbox or negotiate a $1 sale! On the legal side, the microstock world has wisely adopted a "releases for everything, period" stance that errs on the side of excessive ass-covering rather than too little. That doesn't mean that I believe microstock will keep growing at this rate... but my explanation of why I believe that is a little too long for a blog comment, so I made it a post over at my own blog.<BR/>http://ericschmiedl.com/blog/?p=88Eric Schmiedlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754583876940071038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7553278593406733377.post-70470643586490847342008-04-17T01:28:00.000-04:002008-04-17T01:28:00.000-04:00I'm shocked -horrified- bamboozled - imagine -Luck...I'm shocked -horrified- bamboozled - imagine -Lucky Oliver folding!! - ' Babe you make my heart sing!"<BR/> I am under no misunderstand that I can't remain on this planet for $1 a photo let alone $50 so why are so many so gullible? It boggles-the-mind that potential investors didn't laugh out loud at $1 photos or "mid-stock" and then flee to chortle heartily with the other "moneyed" fellows over a fine single malt Whiskey. Maybe the sane ones did! I hope to God those wounds are deep and the licking just keeps a fresh and open wound. Maybe now word spreads that this business isn't ever likely to work so go check out something with a return - like - OIL!<BR/>For some extraordinary reading check out the condolences from all the unhappy shutterbugs demanding their $6 I.O.U.'s. Very sad but strangely stimulating at the same time - I feel a little tingle.<BR/><BR/>Ah, a little life returns to good business practices everywhere.<BR/>check:http://www.luckyoliver.com/blog/show/328/Closing+the+Doors<BR/><BR/>Thanks JH a fine commentary - but, my young Jedi - I sense you are hold back your true feelings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com